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I do agree, I find the men lazier than the women. That being said, it’s not like the women are great shakes either. I’m not saying all of them are crap, but the good workers are so rare they’re practically an endangered species.
And waidiren vs locals – waidiren are a lot more hardworking. You’d get a better bang for your buck with a waidiren. only thing is.. sometimes they’d get bullied by the shanghai ning. And managing the dynamics of that relationship is … tricky because the shanghai ning just won’t deal with it, regardless how loudly the waidiren sings their “oh woe is me” song.
Jumping ship is prolly more common with the youngins. and with every ship jumped, they expect to double or at least significantly increase their salary. I commonly see resumes where applicant has gone through 4 employers in a year. Why would you even put a 2 month stint in your resume? What could you possibly have learnt?
Our company had the mistake of hiring to0 many female graduates,.. with a ratio of about 6:1 and one thing to watch out for is that a year or so after they were hired, 30% of the female grads was starting a family. Nothing wrong with it, just very inconvenient – business wise.
I think it is more of a living day by day mentality. Not only have to nudge my IT folks to move their butt to do something, they are simply lost inthe space time continuium.
Anything out of the ordinary – scope of work, and I dont mean hank panky and stuff… they just Brain Jam!!! “Does not Compute”..”Error 404″ or such bullfeces…
That is why I always emphasise on hiring people, no matter local or IT, regardless of their paper qualifications to have the right attitude first.
2 minutes ago, Rezzie said:Our company had the mistake of hiring to0 many female graduates,.. with a ratio of about 6:1 and one thing to watch out for is that a year or so after they were hired, 30% of the female grads was starting a family. Nothing wrong with it, just very inconvenient – business wise.
One story I heard before. Someone was looking for an assistant. During the interview, one qn asked were, do you intend to start family planning. She said no. She just got recently married and would like to focus on career.
Anyway, she got the job. After 3 months probation, she told her boss that she got pregnant. Well sh1t sometimes happens right? for the bosses I mean. But it turned out that she was already pregnant during the probation period.
They couldn’t sack her(of course not!) so the department had to employ another assistant to assist her. I wonder how it worked out.
5 minutes ago, Longjob said:We have recently implemented a referral program which excludes HR staffing from receiving any benefit while offering a differentiated referral bonus for; college hires, individual contributors, managers and even diversity [female] candidates!. The bonuses are a combination of cash and Amazon vouchers.
hmm..care to get the bonuses by introducing me to your company?
For a start, I am a very assertive person, with that I mean I am prepared to quarrel and argue with anyone from lower level management to top management in subsidiary or headquarter just to get things done my way.. Can manage projects very well, never behind any deadline. Infact I like to bark, pinch, push people around to meet schedules. I do that with absolute delight when the people I am handling are the locals.
humph..do you think I fit the bill?
I do believe and agree with you both on that. We met a young Shanghainese some weeks ago in a pub.
He came over to chat with us becoz he heard us talking in german. It turned out that he was a fresh graduate, had done 1 year of exchange program in Germany.
He told us that he wanted to find a management job. With that he meant MANAGER JOB!
He had absolutely nada experience but he was convinced that he would make it BIG! He behaved as if he was better than us.
Anyway, he finally left us all alone after he have found some other victims.
I just wonder, a Chinese who had done some years of overseas studying stint was already so full of himself. What kinda person would a Chinese who was bred overseas be?
Ofcourse this may not apply to all Chinese but there are millions of them here and so is it “pure coincidence” that we happened to have met a bad apple representation?
Sorry, but I dont think so.
/profile/129-leetanya/?do=hovercard” data-mentionid=”129″ href=”<___base_url___>/profile/129-leetanya/” rel=””>@leetanya Not unique to China/Shanghai. Seems to happen wherever the market has a dependency upon foreign talent.
I recall 20 years ago in Singapore the high expectations of graduates to replace their foreign [read “paid more than me”] managers within 1 – 2 years of starting work.
The education system seems to teach that everything can be learnt from a book and that experience counts for nothing.
We have a referral system in the company (globally) but HR, and anyone else that would be involved in the decision making around a hire, are excluded. It’s obviously still open to abuse as the hiring manager and referring employee could make a side deal to split the cash. I got one decent enough guy here that was referred.
As for the main discussion…..
I’ve been recruiting a lot lately and have finally managed to get our HR dept to filter CVs/candidates in a useful way. I’m at least getting candidates that vaguely fit the position and they will check details that don’t make sense before sending to me. I hate it though. Painful waste of time interviews one after the other…
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